Kawasaki triples CDI ignitions
Contents
Summary of pickups
Detailed model information
Summary of the different pickup systems
There are four main versions of stock CDI ignitions used on the
Kawasaki triples. Most of them are interchangable between the bikes if
the COMPLETE charging/ignition system is used.
- The H2 750 (all years) and the H1D 500 -73 have three pickups
and three CDI boxes. There is one pulse/rev/pickup. Schematic
- The H1/A/C (early model 500 -69 to -71) have one pickup and
one CDI box that fires three times per revolution (feeding a
high voltage distributor). Schematic
- The H1E/F/KH500 (late models 500 -74, -75 and -76) have one pickup
and one box that fires three times per rev. It does not have a high
voltage distributor like the early H1, rather, the rotor has three
copper segments on the face that are contacted by brushes (much like the
charging system). Kawasaki also called this a "distributor". The brushes
provide a path to the primary of the appropriate coil as the rotor
turns. Schematic
- The last model of the 400cc triple, the KH400, has three
pickups and one box with three coils. This is a system that is simlar to
the H2 with regard to pickups. The H2 has a single "rectifier" box and
a separate cdi box for each cylinder (4 total). The KH400 has a single
molded "box" with all components contained. Schematic
- The Boyer Bransden system is a replacement aftermarket ignition for
KH250, S2 350 etc models with points ignition. This system may also be
used on other triples if the stator/rotor/rectifier from the smaller
triples is used. On the pickup side it is similar in functionality to
the H1 500 CDI that has one pickup giving three signals per revolution
and feeding one box.
Schematic and installation instructions
With regards to the pickup side there are two groups of ignition
systems on the Kawasaki triples.
- The H2/H1D/KH400 with three pickups, each giving one signal per
revolution.
- Early H1, late H1 and bikes equipped with a Boyer Bransden are also
similar, with one pickup giving three signals per revolution (the Boyer
has three pickups but they are wired together, the late H1 has two
pickups wired together).
More info at
Detailed CDI Information
H2 and H1D
H2 Schematic
Late H1 ignition
Late H1 500 1974-1976 consists of a pickup feeding a CDI unit
giving three pulses per revolution.
Late H1 Schematic
Info from Falconman:
I have pics of all the signals and the voltage levels written down
somewhere. Here is the pickup signal
on a late H1, it is about 2 Vpp.
The signal stayed almost the same from idle to about 4500 rpm. That's as far as I went with it.
I do remember the voltage from the stator to the cdi was a little
over 300 V and the voltage to the primary side of the coil was about
300v as well. There is some loss going thru the "low voltage
distributor" (rotor).
Here are the signals (taken at idle on late H1) for the stator
output to cdi unit (cdi_scope005) and
from cdi to coil primary (cdi_scope006).
I will look for the voltage readings and send them when I find them.
Boyer Bransden
Boyer Bransden schematic. Actual pickup resistance was measured at 95 ohm.
Picture of the Boyer System mounted on a S2 350 stator/rotor assembly. Note! It is not possible to mount the Boyer system directly on an H1 with points system. You have to use the rotor and stator from an S2, for instance.
Signal from the Boyer pickup at idle. It is about 1 V peak to
peak.
Click here to show Oscilloscope readings
of
signals at the pickups and coils. This shows that the Boyer system
doesn't have any advance or retard.